Groove: Compatibility

Do Apogee products work with the iPad Pro with USB-C port?

Apple’s iPad Pro with the USB-C port marks a significant change that affects Apogee’s iOS-compatible devices.

First some background:

Apogee’s iOS compatible products have been officially certified for all past iPad/iPhone/iPod models (the ones with Lightning or 30-pin connectors) by Apple through their MFi Licensee program. However Apple does not offer MFi certification for the new USB-C iPad Pro models. With this change, some Apogee accessory features will be slightly different on the new iPad Pro USB-C models.

NOTE: This information is only regarding connection to iOS devices (iPads & iPhones), and does not affect anything regarding connection to a Mac or Windows computer.

All versions of MiC & JAM and Groove – COMPATIBLE
These units will send/receive audio and all functions can be controlled via the knobs/buttons on the hardware or the buttons and sliders on your iPad/iPhone/iPod.

Connect to the new iPad Pro USB-C with the Apple USB-C to USB Adapter together with the standard USB A cable that came in the box with the product
https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MJ1M2AM/A/usb-c-to-usb-adapter

We also make a direct USB Micro to USB-C cable, which can be used with the MiC Plus, Jam Plus, and Groove:
https://www.apogeedigital.com/shop/1-meter-micro-b-to-usb-type-c-for-mic-plus

One/Duet/Quartet – *PARTIALLY COMPATIBLE

Basic functions of our larger USB units work. This would be audio playback, some audio input, & output level control. (Note that ONE & Duet do not need the external power supply connected because the USB-C port provides bus power just like on a Mac!)

However these units are unable to connect to the Apogee Maestro iOS app, and thus are unable to access the Input Settings like Gain and Phantom Power or Output Routing, low-latency mixers, and Volume.

iPad does not get charged when a ONE, Duet, or Quartet are plugged in to AC power.

In some cases you may have to power down iPad, connect Duet or Quartet and power back up for them to be usable (ONE behaves differently, see below)

Quartet:   offers the best partial compatibility
Duet:   decent partial compatibility
  • Able to adjust inputs gain with front panel knob.
  • Other input & various settings must be changed with it connected to a Mac computer or Lightning iPad/iPhone first. Then you can connect to the USB-C iPad Pro and settings should carry over.
ONE:   is the least compatible
  • Inputs do not register in any app.
  • Output control, playback, streaming from iTunes or other music apps works.

Please be aware this may not work in all cases or on all applications. There is lots of variability and things can change with each Apple iOS release or audio app update.

Note: The Anker USB-C to Lightning Audio Adapter is not a workaround

We would very much like to update these devices to support the new iPad Pro USB-C and are working with Apple to do so.
As soon as Apple can provide us a path of compatibility with this device we are happy to update our unit to support it.
Please look out for an update when we are able to make this available.

Sennheiser AMBEO Smart Headset – Mostly Compatible

The Sennheiser AMBEO Smart Headset can be converted from Lightning to USB-C using the Anker Lightning-to-USB-C adapter. Not only does this work in the USB-C iPad’s, but it also works on Macs (with limitations):

https://apogeedigital.com/blog/the-ambeo-smart-headset-from-apogee-and-sennheiser-now-connects-to-mac-and-ipad-pro-using-the-new-anker-usb-c-to-lightning-audio-adapter

Note: The Maestro and AMBEO iOS apps will not be able to communicate with the Sennheiser microphones even withe the Anker adapter due to the lack of MFi through USB-C instead of Lightning. However generic recording does work according to our tests.

 

Other Sennheiser Lightning devicesNot Compatible  ClipMic Digital, MKE-2 Digital, MKE-4 Digital:

These Sennheiser mobile recording products do not work on the USB-C iPads even when connected through the Anker Lightning-to-USB-C adapter. (It also does not work on Macs with USB-C.  Only the AMBEO works on Macs through the Anker adapter).

These can only work through iPads and iPhones equipped with a Lightning port.

Do Apogee USB products (Groove, ONE, Duet, GiO, MiC, JAM, Quartet) work with the latest MacBook?

Question:

Do Apogee’s current USB products (Groove, ONE for Mac, ONE for iPad & Mac, Duet 2, Duet for iPad & Mac, GiO, MiC, MiC 96k, JAM, JAM 96k, Quartet) work with the 2015/2016 12″ MacBook?

 

Answer:

Yes. The 2015/2016 12″ MacBook includes a USB-C port. Since USB-C uses a different size port and connector than traditional USB ‘Type A’, you will need to use an Apple USB-C to USB adapter to connect any USB device with a traditional ‘Type A’ connection, such as Apogee’s line of USB audio interfaces, to this port.

Apogee’s line of USB audio interfaces are also fully compatible with the 2016 MacBook Pro, as outlined in this post.

 

*It should be noted that Apogee’s Thunderbolt products will NOT work with the 2015/2016 12″ MacBook.

 

Click for information about compatibility with Apogee’s Thunderbolt products and the 2015/2016 12″ MacBook.

Click for information about compatibility with Apogee’s Thunderbolt products and the 2016 MacBook Pro.

Click for more information on the differences between USB-C ports and Thunderbolt 3 ports.

 

 

 

 

Do Apogee USB products (Groove, ONE, Duet, GiO, MiC, JAM, Quartet) work with the 2016 MacBook Pro?

Question:

Do Apogee’s current USB products (Groove, ONE for Mac, ONE for iPad & Mac, Duet 2, Duet for iPad & Mac, GiO, MiC, MiC 96k, JAM, JAM 96k, Quartet) work with the 2016 MacBook Pro?

 

Answer:

Yes. The 2016 MacBook Pro with Touch Bar includes Thunderbolt 3 ports, which can also be used to connect USB devices. Since Thunderbolt 3 and USB-C use the same size ports and cables, you will need to use an Apple USB-C to USB adapter to connect any USB device with a traditional ‘Type A’ connection, such as Apogee’s line of USB audio interfaces, to these ports.

Apogee’s line of USB audio interfaces are also fully compatible with the 2015/2016 12″ MacBook, as outlined in this post.

 

*It should be noted that Apogee’s Thunderbolt products will NOT work with the 2015/2016 12″ MacBook.

 

Click for information about compatibility with Apogee’s Thunderbolt products and the 2016 MacBook Pro.

Click for information about compatibility with Apogee’s Thunderbolt products and the 2015/2016 12″ MacBook.

Click for more information on the differences between USB-C ports and Thunderbolt 3 ports.

Are Apogee products compatible with Pro Tools 12?

Yes!  The following products have been tested and are fully compatible with Pro Tools 12 (every version of 12):

  • JAM
  • JAM 96k
  • MiC
  • MiC 96k
  • Groove
  • GiO
  • ONE for Mac (old and new versions)
  • ONE for iPad & Mac
  • Duet FireWire
  • Duet 2
  • Duet for iPad & Mac
  • Quartet for iPad & Mac
  • Ensemble FireWire
  • Ensemble Thunderbolt
  • Symphony I/O (USB, Symphony, and Pro Tools HD modes)
  • Symphony I/O MkII (Thunderbolt and Pro Tools HD)
  • Symphony 64 PCIe
  • Symphony 64 | ThunderBridge
  • X-Symphony equipped X-Series and Rosetta Series Converters
  • X-HD equipped X-Series and Rosetta Series Converters

Multi-driver Balanced Armature IEMs with Groove

Apogee does not recommend the Apogee Groove for use with multi-driver balanced armature in-ear monitors. Due to the design of the balanced armature drivers and crossover networks used in this type of headphone, the Groove’s Constant Current Drive amplifier technology may result in uneven frequency response when used with certain models.

Does Groove work with iOS devices?

Q: Does Groove work with iOS devices (iPhones/iPads)?
A: Only with newer iPads & iPhones that have USB-C ports built-in. If the iPad has a Lightning port the answer is No. This is becauseGroove is a high-performance headphone amplifier and DAC designed to power the most demanding premium headphones. Lightning-only iOS devices simply do not provide enough power for high quality headphone drivers, but the newer USB-C equipped devices do.

Will Apogee USB interfaces work with USB 3.0 ports on my Mac?

Yes, Apogee interfaces including JAM, JAM 96k, MiC, MiC 96k, GiO, Groove, Duet 2, Duet for iPad & Mac, ONE, ONE for iPad & Mac, Quartet, and Symphony I/O have been tested and work well with USB 3.0 ports.

Note-

Although Symphony I/O works as an audio interface with USB 3.0 ports, you will need to use a USB 2.0 port or a USB hub to run the Symphony I/O firmware updater.